10th War. Bugs.

[I./NJG6_HeTzeR]

Exactly, even If I knew about the agreement, I ,and many others, woudlnt care!
You wouldnt allow such a thing either!
So, bomb as usual, die as usual.
I dont care about what you think about me

[RUS66]

Dull blue idiots
=LK=Keett, I./NJG6_HeTzeR, II/335th_GRThunder.

[I./NJG6_HeTzeR]

Mimimimi I was shot down mimimimi
If ADMIN tells us to not shoot you down, OK!
But not you!

[335th_GRDedalos]

It’s really a big surprise what you are writing here. An agreement is something that gentlemen’s do, in the open and not behind somebody’s back. We weren’t informed of such an agreement and if you think that something like this is correct, why you didn’t propose it when a few maps back the situation involved blue teams? Do you thing that we weren’t bored? Did we have an gent’s agreement then? Ok and if so, why yesterday even when I flew so that the red will have quorum, everybody flew in fighters (I’ve been shot down by Pokémons)? I believe that you will win this and the next and every new war that will come. The question is against who?

[P_PikaCHuu]

Answering. I know about so called "agreement". Actually it is not an agreement. The word announcement suits this situation better . 1 blue squad wrote on forum that they will provide quorum, and will not shoot down red bombers . Well my squad's position is following. "They are not shooting us ? OK. Thanks. But anyway we will escort our bombers and if we see anybody we will shoot him down as a threat." If anyone wants to provide quorum he can do it by entering server choosing side and sitting on the ground. But if I see BF 109 I have no info who he is and what is he planning to do. So I'm trying to shoot him down, that's all.

Dear Dedalos I hope you understand the situation the same way I do, so our fight was OK by any rules.

S!

[335th_GRDedalos]

Dear Picachuu,
I’ve nothing against you and practically I have to agree with you. I did mention the fact because I wanted to be understood to some players that not everybody agrees with this situation that they wanted us to fall in. Of course you have to shoot me down and believe me if I have the opportunity I would have done so. Please try to convince your fellows not to have any kind of agreement or announce or whatever you like to name it again without noticing it to the community.
And the fact that a so called “blue” player shot down another blue player it is not something to be unnoticed. I think that measurers against this player have to be taken (let’s say ban the IP address). It is not the first time that this is happening on purpose and certainly admins they should provide a solution so this will not happen once more.

~S!

[P_PikaCHuu]

It's good that we understand each other, also I agree with your point of view.
I did a try but useless. Still hoping that this problem will be solved the way it should be.

[4.BAP_Feyevich]

Esto cabecita complicano tutto.

[I./NJG6_HeTzeR]

I think its very good what you 2 guys wrote here.
And I also think its nothing but honorless and childish to insult me and others, just because we do what we are used to do!
I hope Pikachu thinks the same way I do.

[335th__GRThunder]

Dull blue idiots
=LK=Keett, I./NJG6_HeTzeR, II/335th_GRThunder.

Admins you think its right for anyone to get insulted in here....?

RUSS66 you should apologise.....

But anyway we will escort our bombers and if we see anybody we will shoot him down as a threat." If anyone wants to provide quorum he can do it by entering server choosing side and sitting on the ground. But if I see BF 109 I have no info who he is and what is he planning to do. So I'm trying to shoot him down, that's all.

...i shall do the same , as always .......this map can also end with aircraft elimination ...... or not?

If anyone wants to provide quorum he can do it by entering server choosing side and sitting on the ground.

PVO[BF.S]_Radist informed me this morning in game that quorum is now 1:1 or 2:0 !!!!!!!!!! , i did not see that change wroten in here, when did that happened?


*sorry for my english.......

~S~

[P_PikaCHuu]

Hetzer >>> Not exactly the same way.

On one hand we have Hetzer playing according to rules. Shooting down enemy planes .

On the other hand we have guys saying something like "Hetzer stop, we are doing something here" , or " we have an agreement" ,or " we are working together with reds to finish this map"
It's doesn't matter what were the words. Thing is there was possibility to start conversation and get all the info to understand the whole picture. On forum it was difficult cause this subject was discussed in russian part of forum only. Well I don't know what happened next, how did you guys ended this conversation but you did what you did. According to all this I think that you anyway understood what was happening, and made your decision. Well it's what you did , remained in combat and shot down many reds, good fight by the way. That's all.

My opinion about the whole problem is that all THREE sides of this conflict are wrong.

1. Bunch of guys using russian part of forum writing some messages to each other and going straight on the server, without approval or support from admins , and without any kind of real agreement. There were only few announcements and they went straight to battle. Too fast I think, not discussing it on both sides of forum.
Such kind of operation in my mind must be discussed on both english and russian forums. And the words about this operation must be delivered to mostof the squads on both sides , plus admins , plus majority must agree. Some kind of voting or smth must be done. And only after all this bureaucracy you can announce on forum " at this day and at this time - pilots start you engines, operation X will begin!" More other things they could do , but well they did what they did.

2. Admins did not react fully on the things that were about to begin. Possible conflicts were to be investigated before this operation . Announcing this operation officially on both sides of forum would be a big plus to support order on the server. More other things they could do , but well they did what they did.

3. You anyway understood from chat that something is happening not in usual way. Maybe you didn't read forum, but from chat signal about something was delivered to you anyway. Did you spend some percent of your energy to understand the situation ? I don't know. What I know is that you continue to fight . And later on forum you also made your statement that you don't care. You stated that you are not going to support this operation, It's your choice and you have right to do so. More other things you could do , but well you did what you did.

I think doing so it is not good. Cause guys are trying to save the whole war! They are trying to save ADW from stopping, from loosing pilots.

We are pilots. We are blood of this organism . If we stop flying on the server , server will start to become boring to majority. Pilots may choose other servers to fly . And without blood inside you , you know what will happen.

So verdict is all are somehow wrong. But well we are humans, not robots. Let's try to understand each other, let's try to solve our problems together, and not make same mistakes in future. Cause it's our home. We live here. And when we press button connect, 99% we read message > Connection Established. This means ADW is alive. And don't know about you but I like it

[P_PikaCHuu]

Thunder


This was announced only on russian side of the forum.
viewtopic.php?f=114&t=119607&start=90

Last post.

This new type of quorum will last this map only.
Next map we will have normal quorum.

And yes this map can end with aircraft elimination, most probably blue side will win according to this scenario.

[335th__GRThunder]

... a little bit difficult when blue pilot shoot down other blue pilots.....
http://www.adw.alkar.net/en/sortie/2648/52315/index.h

or when othet blue bomber pilot take off B18 and hit its depo ...!!!!!!
http://www.adw.alkar.net/en/map/1565/index.html 11-01-11 18:16:26 KG51_Kurt

[P_PikaCHuu]

They probably belong to the bunch of guys who decided to finish this map using all types of methods. Unfortunately not all of these methods are legal.

[RUS66]

Admins you think its right for anyone to get insulted in here....?

RUSS66 you should apologise.....

For what should I apologize?
For that fact that you fly as you like? Maybe for that personally you hadn't been informed that some of the blue decided to provide the red with the carte blanche to destroy the resources? If you are used to playing on the server, so read the forum and if you don't agree with the common opinion you can have two options either to submit to the recent situation or to fly as you like, but in the last case you must be ready for listening to what you are thought about and who you really are.
That's why, you are dull and idiots at the same time. I told my truth.
Keep in mind that I expressed all this using a literary language.

(А за что?
То что вы летаете как вам удобно, не взирая на ситуацию на сервере? Или то что вам лично не сообщили, что часть синих решила обеспечить красным карт бланш на выбивание ресурсов? Вы играете на этом сервере, так мониторьте форум и если не согласны с общим мнением, то у вас два варианта, или подчиниться, или летать как вам хочется, но тогда будте готовы выслушать то что о вас думают и то кем вы являетесь на самом деле.
Вот поэтому, тупые и идиоты одновременно. Я сказал правду , но свою.
И учитывайте, что это я сказал вам очень литературным языком.)