10th War. Bugs.

[335th__GRThunder]

Is there any admin reading these posts?????

It's ok to call people with names in here????!!???

[I./NJG6_HeTzeR]

Pikachu, I totally understand you.
But, I see a chance of winning this. By destroying planes! And we have the advantage for this right now!
We had several maps with the exact same problem! We captured HQ and nothing happend! Did Admins change Quorum for us? No! Did we had a Agreement with reds? No!
Fly as usual! Keep fighting!
One side will succeed! If its getting hard, dont complain, fight harder!
Btw, Rus66 I fly ADW for a very long time. Longer then most of the people here!
I dont have to take such things from you!
And yes Pika, you where right! TUS_Pilot told me to stop, but who is TUS in my eyes? They are no Admins, they will continue flying red next war.
Even I told some Blue Pilots in another map, to let the reds do their Job, so we will loose cause I wanted a new map. But noone listend and this is ok!
Im no Admin! So why should they listen at me?

And we still can win this!
By the way, if you want to change Map so hard, why dont YOU RED guys, let us destroy your Static planes? Whoops, you would loose! I forgot

So end this disscusion about nothing!
I will continue doing my "job" as good as I can.

And most of the blue Pilots think the way I do, they dont want an agreement, they dont want to give up!
So fly as usual and everything will be the way it is used to be


Best regards
HeTzeR

[P_PikaCHuu]

I'm flying as usual Hetzer ,exactly as usual.
The thing is I'm on the red side now.
All questions have been answered. And we all know what we are doing.
Well, so be it.

[TUS_Prapor]

RUS66
+1

Хорошо, что перевод оставил.
Пикачу, если можешь, переведи этому пафосному светло-синему мажорику Хетцеру, что надо было красные танки держать и Илов и бомберов красных сбивать до того, как они затолкали свои танки синим по самые гланды.
Победитель хренов.

[P_PikaCHuu]

TUS_Prapor
У него свое мнение и ему не интересно наше. Он хочет выиграть эту карту, он придерживается правил. Не его вина что танки застряли. Так что лучше не раздувать конфликт , толку от этого мало будет. А при пофигизме админов тут вообще хрен знает что может закрутиться. Извини но я не собираюсь становится между двумя сторонами с целью метать ихние какашки друг в друга. Вон попроси рус66 он видно в этом деле професионал, видно по другому разговраивать не умеет, зато какашки метать мастер.

[I./NJG6_HeTzeR]

Luckily there is Google Translator.
Prapor I know you speak english too
And once again, this is not only my own oppinion! A lot of blue pilots think the same way
Dont just blame me

[TUS_Prapor]

Prapor I know you speak english too

bla bla bla

I./NJG6_HeTzeR, my english - very, very bad... My english - it's not english, it's atomic horror... And i'm understand very very simple words...
DO NOT KILLING RED BOMBERS IN "KUBAN 43"!!!!

[I./NJG6_HeTzeR]

Yes I will, cause we still can win through Plane destruction!

[*DZR*Chimanov]

What your peanut brain doesn´t get Hetzer, is that you have lost this map already, the only reason why we are still stucked here after almost 2 weeks, is because this map is bugged like no other before. If there was a bug in previous Kuban map, at least it kept moving and didn´t come to a hault like this one.

We have left B18 airfield inoperative for several missions already, that is a win by AF captured, still the mission generator won´t change a thing.

And regarding the "agreement", it was written in russian forum and i also wrote it in english forum the same morning before you and some other greenhorns entered the mission. Also, the "agreement" i was talking about is not the one in forum, is the one we had with blue guys flying all that morning TUS, S_ , ZG26, and were keeping informed each other in *chat all*. So, when you and 335th ignore all this and don´t even say in chat that you don´t care about it, and like a sneaky noob attack unescorted bombers who tell in chat where they are attacking, do it, is OK...but don´t get offended when they call you names, cause they are right.

RUS66... +1

We are trying to finish this map any way we can. By now, i think most of us don´t care if generator gives victory to red or blue, we already know who won this one anyway, and would like to go to Crimea 44'.

[4.BAP_Feyevich]

Pls check this missions.

http://www.adw.alkar.net/en/map/1567/index.html (here I was shot down by the train, ditched broking the plane near B18, I was captured, dont count plane lost)

http://www.adw.alkar.net/en/map/1573/index.html (I was killed dont count the lost plane, really dont count nothing)

http://www.adw.alkar.net/en/map/1587/index.html (Savras shot down dont count the plane lost)


Many planes have been lost and generator didnt count them, so tell me in what way are you going to win by aircraft elimiation Hetzer????

This are only an example, look yourself for more missions pls

[335th_GRTyphoon]

Came back after a while and read about this "bug".
Reminds me about same "bug" we had on this map.
We were bombing ships and depots and map didnt change for 2 weeks.....
Its really bad that the war doesnt progress.
I can understand that there is a bug,its obvious.
Its been there for blue side also,same bug.
So,fix the bug and dont upset whole ADW community with some "agreement",especially when admins stay out of this as far as i know..
But,no-one,except admins,can order a player or a squad in here,red or blue,to follow an "agreement" of any kind.Specially if a squad has not agreed to such "agreement" and even more when this unofficial "agreement" exist only amongst red players and "some" blue players,) .Btw,as far as i know,no such "agreement" was made ever in a online war,bugged or not.So,if map isnt changed manual by admins,best thing is for any blue squad to do just how the feel,engage or not.tThat counts for red side also,fighters and bombers fly as usuall,blue fighters attacking bombers would be their targets,where is the problem?
And if admins tell us officially here in englisch forum that map cant be closed,or cant be won by anyone,then we can discuss a solution.To discard the map is ok,but just to say "we won the map" is not enough.Cause,if i am not mistaken,planes lost before players started leaving the server due to bug,was about 690 to 500.(Btw,did nobody realize that blue side actually did not fight at all the bomber-war?nobody realized that everybody flew just for kills and not caring about map result? )
Also its unexceptable to call blue players names,for not knowing russian and not beeing informed by admins,not by players,by admins,or simply by not agreeing.
If anybody got a problem with that,report that mission to admins,if there is a fault in blue players actions,they will be punished,if not,call admins names if you dare

Again,its all admins decissions to make.

After all,after a hard days work,we all come in server to play and shoot some virtual shells,and not pretend we are a hole in the universe.

P.S.:Seems to me,real problem is not at winning or loosing this map,but at low blue player participation.
And if ADW goes on and blue players still dont participate,what comes next?Red side fighting alone,bombing alone and fighters flying formations-competitions?
ADW got problems far deeper than just a map bug........player frustration is just accelerated by some "bugs" or some "agreements".....
Dont realize this,and project goes down the drain as i (correctly,judging by results) predicted before.
And that would be sad.

[[BF.S]Rik]

Came back after a while and read about this "bug".
P.S.:Seems to me,real problem is not at winning or loosing this map,but at low blue player participation.

+1000

[I./NJG6_HeTzeR]

Chimakitty, I wont argue with you, cause its just useless.
But, your "agreement" with S_ and ZG26...those guys are my wingmans.
They just shot down 3 of you, they had no agreement with you, to be straight, Komodore of Zg26 just said: What a BS, this agreement is nothing but a joke, lets get em all
So yeah
Im not the only blue fighting this BS!
And as I told before, I DONT F***ING CARE ABOUT WINNING OR LOOSING!
I want to fly! And if this is still possible on this map (which we can win ) I will, I wont sit here, in my spare time and watch you guys bombing my AF.
Never!

But I guess thats just my small brain´s opinion isnt it ? hahahah

Chimakitty. grow up

[*DZR*Chimanov]

But I guess thats just my small brain´s opinion isnt it ? hahahah

Exactly!

What you say about II/ZG26 is simply not true. My IL2 was "shot down" during that morning while the agreement was on, but it was because i said to that guy where i was (turning lights on and also shooting so he can see me), i said to him i didn´t want to go all the way back to my AF, and if some blue wanted a kill i would fly straight, gunner turned off so he could have it instead of blue flak; he accepted it: http://www.adw.alkar.net/en/sortie/4118 ... index.html

And blue player quorum was fine before this bug was exposed; of course it wasn´t 40+ like in first maps, but that is very normal in ADW, when things get tough they start leaving, just like it's been happening since their defeats in Stalingrad. It is known in ADW, the LW exodus during and after 43' maps

[I./NJG6_HeTzeR]

I know this, he told me.
But anyway, their opinion changed